If only the homeless surrounded by trash could show they can be responsible neighbors instead of leaving trails of trash we would have more options for them.

It’s called “pack it out”, these homeless folks need to learn and love that term. Pack out their garbage and walk it to a dumpster of trash can daily. They don’t work, they have plenty of time to find a trash can. Also stop dragging crap back to their camp and hoarding it.
Learn to live as a minimalist.

What options would we” have for them Law Abider? Because I don’t know of any here in Vallejo regardless of how they live

Have you seen what people of been doing to Yosemite lately? Nobody is monitoring the park. They’re not homeless and are trashing a National Park. If anybody should know the “pack it out theory”, it would be responsible campers, right? My neighbors trash the street when they come home every night by throwing their fast food and other garbage out of their car. This is in front of their own home. And yes, the homeless encampments are dirty, full of trash, human waste, used syringes and more. So how do we get people to change this behavior? How do we get the city of Vallejo to enforce the existing codes? How do you get people to have pride and respect for the place they live in ( both the homeless and the residence of this town )?

There appears to be more illegal dumping complaints than homeless encampments. Clearly they aren’t solely to blame for trashing our city. Although it’s what some residents prefer to believe.

I see all kinds of people trash the town, but they all seem like low class people that don't care. Enforcement with stiff community service and stiff penalties if possible would be helpful and perhaps have a point on there drivers license when a vehicle is involved. I personally would blame the ones surrounded by trash solely for the trash surrounding them. It's too bad there can't be a place for them with rules they can follow to keep it free from blight, health and safety issues. How do you get people whom don't care enough to care for themselves? Giving them unsupervised housing won't work. Of course I'm not saying one size fits all here.

What if money was allocated to pay for trash in the same way ppl recycle bottles and cans? Sometimes a little incentive goes a long way. Not large items but only bags of garbage collected off the streets and not anyone’s obvious household trash. They could possibly pay a few cents per pound. I’m sure it would be cheaper than all of the labor hours for city workers being overwhelmed with so much trash pick up duties.

Law Abider did you really say “Low class people”? 😂😂😂 I wonder what “class” you consider yourself to be, and why?

If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is: Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.
William Blake.

Indeed. Great quote

People whom blatantly litter are low class in my book. Maybe I should have said inconsiderate or some other unfavorable word. What would you call people whom blatantly litter. Please explain. I don't always use the best words. Sure they might be good at something but it is so easy to be responsible for your trash. Why should someone else? I am fed up with littering and have never seen such blatant littering since I moved to Vallejo. I am always amazed how someone can be so careless. I would like to see homeless advocates show their caring by helping the homeless be more responsible. There should be mandatory weekly clean up at encampments at the scheduled day they can be there. We bring the dumpster and the homeless fill them up. Otherwise we remove everything. Quoting what should be common sense is a bore.

Clearly a textbook case of "Authoritarian Personality"

"There appears to be more illegal dumping complaints than homeless encampments.'

Yes, they do move from place to place, around town. And they don't clean up after themselves when they move..

Dee, Yes , I have always been the boss, not the employee. I have always beat to my own drum, not much of a follower. I have loads of compassion for people whom are trying. Again, What name would you use to describe a person whom blatantly litters etc. and has no issues trashing our town even when there is no trash in sight until they litter?

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The good doctor is a new ID
With blocked content
I wonder who is hiding behind the new ID?
Myself I have 1 ID here and if I made a 2nd you would know it’s me easy..... When the comment gets unblocked I will try to guess the primary ID
But maybe I am wrong. I have been wrong before

L.U. is policing SCF now? Will you track their Civic Points too? Hope they meet your appoval.

No I won’t track points
But myself I do need to report some issues and upload pictures I really lag here
I was surprised I was not banned from this site a while back if that’s possible....

Homeowner: “Yes, they do move from place to place around town. And they don’t clean up after themselves when they move..”. Did you think about that comment before you typed it? Because I haven’t seen homeless ppl with Computer desks, E-waste, Construction debris, Tree/Yard trimmings, and rarely do you see homeless ppl with mattresses, couches and large home furnishings unless someone with a residence dumped them outside first. Based on that analysis I can conclude that much of the “illegal dumping” in Vallejo comes from ppl with addresses, just like yourself.

Law Abider I call people that litter “Litterers”.

I have a opinion in regards to mandatory recycling a well intentioned law that has had unintended outcome.
If anyone here can remember voting for mandatory recycling say so. Before the city’s were required by the state mandate there was never a dumping problem of the scope we have now.
Because you could basically put whatever amount of trash out curbside for pick up
Now we have skyrocketed price for a gray container and no local dump and if you go to the dump local dump far away the price is outrageous
I understand we need to conserve land fill space but social engineering by the mandates of the state sometimes don’t work.
Now the taxpayers pay the city to remove debris that before could be out in bags and barrels curbside.
And how is the mandated CRV tax working out for you remember when everyone was going to save the plastic for your money back in a perfect California
Yes I know why there’s so much dumping Vallejo and it’s not because of homeless humanoids

Local User I agree. I think the majority of illegal dumping is due to costs and inconvenience. It seems we can either eat the cost by providing free pick ups at residences or pick up trash dumped all over our city. At least with arranged pick ups the COV can require the trash be pre-sorted and somewhat organized

Recology will come to your house twice a year for FREE "junk" pick-up, you just have to call. Same for appliances. Additionally they have a "free dump day" several times a year on Mare Island, but you must show proof of residency in Vallejo.
People paid to clean an apartment etc. don't want to pay the landfill fee.
I actually canvased when I was a teen to get the same deposit fee Oregon has, but they passed the "CRV" instead. Try to get the same money back at a recycler as you paid at the store. All the recyclers are for profit bussiness.

Artsem the only problem with the two annual pick ups are the limitations placed on cubic feet. I think if your dumping one love seat or an appliance you may be allowed a couple of bags in addition. I’m not certain if anything larger than a twin size mattress would be allowed based on the limitations. Which is probably why we see so many large mattresses dumped illegally.

Sorry to interrupt your charming conversation about trash cans, but is anyone doing anything about this:

"There is an ever-growing homeless encampment in the vacant parking lot across from seafood city. It’s been there about 8 weeks, and as it grows, the trash and waste grows with it.
I’ve seen people using the lagoon to wash themselves and as a toilet. The city needs to address this ASAP.
This is actually a decent spot for people to camp, but the city needs to clean it up, provide services so they don’t use the lagoon for excrement and waste, and their trash doesn’t get picked up in the wind and blown all over our already trash filled bay."

Homeowner the homeless humanoids have a couple more rights than they did in 1968 so be prepared to be looking at the same thing in February and maybe beyond that.
What do you expect? Forceful law enforcement that violates rights of people oppressed by entitled class?
No services can be provided on that property without massive red tape... Someone owns that property and is now a victim after posting no trespassing signs. A victim because they paid for a fence in a city county state were it’s okay to trespass and camp indefinitely
And if we don’t like it then we can move or go pound sand!

Homeowner, are you trying to dazzle us with your "copy and paste" skills or did you assume that you were only person here that read the caption on the post? To answer your question..No.There is nobody doing anything about it. So please feel free to do something (besides rudely interrupting)

Its possible I will be accused for jumping to the other side of the fence.
I have posted previously that it is clearly marked with signs-

No trespassing
Violators Will be prosecuted

And even with that the police department and code enforcement are impotent in the enforcement of said laws. City codes are also posted on the signs.
So I have to believe that I am misinterpreting the signs or patrols have been told to lay off the homeless.
I don’t want to see a already marginalized part of the population brought down further unnecessarily, but what’s the point of posting signs and having city codes and laws if we’re going to ignore them? This is why I believe law-enforcement is much better equipped to deal with the problem than I am. So the PD must know that it’s not effective to go roust these people out, or give them tickets, arrest them etc. After all they’re just going to plant themselves in another property untill asked to move.
Hesitantly, I am going to agree that the giant parking lot with nothing in it is an appropriate place for this camp. The City will have to provide chemical toilets and garbage services along with scrim on the fence to obscure the view from the street and provide some privacy for the camp. And I do think a weekly welfare check from community services would be beneficial too. That way if anybody decides that they would except what limited homeless services are available in Solano County then can choose to. This of course will come as an extreme liability to the city because if anything goes wrong there, it will be on Tbe City of Vallejo.

I suppose the best thing would be to help these people out before they lose their home. A public program to assist people with their rent or mortgage to keep them from losing their residence entirely. Skyrocketing rents and house prices are pushing folks out who teeter on financial solvency every day. I came to Vallejo’s because it was half the price of any other city in the bay, but unless you’re well off, be prepared to be priced out yourself.

Oh, and I forgot I guess someone should ask the property owner if this is all OK with them.
By the way, where is that property owner? Another speculative property holder waiting for the next big bubble?

I wonder if placing a screen along the fencing where the encampment so visible would help matters any?

Correction: is not so visible

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